Brokenness of Man & Plural Marriage

I am a broken man, and seek for the constant aid of Jesus Christ to mend and heal me. This blog will be a raw attempt to explain the things that I have learned through Him and life’s experiences. I start with this subject to clear the air and to give hope to those who also struggle with it. I hope that many souls will learn from my mistakes, reach unto and grab Christ’s hand and forego the misery of sin. I am grateful for the experiences that have come my way. Yet I sorrow for the sins I have committed, and I realize that I need Jesus Christ to become whole. “Repent and bring forth fruit showing repentance, and I will establish my covenant with you and claim you as mine.” T&C 157:23 <–This is my hearts desire.

I am 38 years old at the time of this blog post.

While studying the scriptures, and praying to the Lord this Sunday morning, I received direction to profess my belief in Christ and to condemn a certain doctrine which has destroyed many lives and almost consumed mine.

I was raised a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. At an early age, I was taught about the doctrine of plural marriage (D&C 132) . I learned through active study that Joseph Smith had many wives and taught about this doctrine secretly. For years I held this belief and it wreaked havok in my life. I have learned after years of study and experience that it is an untrue and damning doctrine. I believe Joseph Smith to be a trustworthy and virtuous man. He said in 1843, “What a thing it is for a man to be accused of committing adultery, and having seven wives, when I can only find one.” (DHC 6:411) He was speaking of Emma.

I will commence to give you my story. I do not wish to harm anyone with the content written next. But it has come to my attention that many people have been sucked into this same hole that I found myself in. This is an effort to help others not make the same mistakes that I did. I relate my experience to help free my brothers who are trapped in this false belief. Those especially in the Remnant Groups (you know who you are). The story I relate next is written to those who listen to ‘Oracles’ and ‘Soothsayers’. Many on the path who are coming unto Christ will run into these people frequently. Be cautious and only take away what you need to from them.

Over this past weekend my wife and I attended a restoration conference at Aravada Springs in Nevada. It was a beautiful event which my wife and I found enriching. We were asked by many where we were from. “Mt. Pleasant, UT we told them.” Half of them asked us if we were part of a certain group in Mount Pleasant and praised the mans name who more or less was at the head of the group. It made both my wife and I sick as it brought up memories of what occurred 8 years prior. – I attended all of this mans courses called “Jedi classes” I attended Jedi 1 & 2 multiple times and also attended 3 & 4. In the 2nd Jedi course, he proceeded to tell us that his daughter (a sighted person who can see through the veil) had seen a vision of Christ and His 3 wives. He asked “does anyone here have a problem with that?” She had seen him chasing one of his wives around the kitchen table and being playful with her. I am quick to believe people and had the belief that his daughter had a special connection with heaven and could see beyond the veil, as was taught in a book she published. I believed the visions that were taught in these courses which altered my beliefs, and caused much damage to the relationship with my wife. I moved forward with the relationship with the family and got to know he & his daughter on a more personal level. He taught by his own experience that he would receive something ‘from the Lord’, then go to his sighted daughter and another sighted woman friend to 2nd and 3rd witness what he had received if it was true. The other woman was another sighted friend (seeing beyond the veil into the spirit world). I asked his daughter for a witness of plural marriage, if I was hearing correctly that I was being asked to practice it. Having already accepted the belief, and being naive and trusting this “unveiled oracle”, the belief had turned into truth. She told me on multiple occasions I was destined to live the law of plural marriage and it would be asked of me very soon. She gave the names of a few women who were being prepared for me. I chewed on this for a while, and decided I needed a 3rd witness.

I install carpets for a living. I asked him if his other friend (the sighted woman) needed carpeting. Her carpets were worn and I donated much to have this done for her. While installing carpet, I asked her if I could have a 3rd witness on something. She consented. I asked her if God was telling me that I would be asked to practice plural marriage in this mortality . I was very concise with my words so she did not confuse the timing of my question. She looked above my left shoulder, looked down at me and said “yes this will be asked of you”. This destroyed me as I love my wife. Yet I was going to be obedient ‘to the Lord’ so I thought. The adversary then played games with me for some time, which led me into forbidden paths. I know many who listen to people like these soothsayers. “And I will cut off witchcrafts out of thy land, and thou shalt have no more soothsayers.” (3 Ne. 9:12) There are many soothsayers in the land. It can lead to havok in your lives. This is a warning from one who gave their ear, and was almost destroyed for doing so. Only give heed to those who speak by the power of the Holy Ghost, and who use the scriptures as their guide to teach.

This doctrine when combined with the flesh creates an abominable monster within. I sought for understanding concerning it. As I sought, the lusts of the flesh would creep in and opportunities to ‘receive revelation’ also came. Satan taught me that Joseph Smith did indeed have many wives, and had free intercourse with them. The great deceiver had dug his hooks into me and I also desired this seemingly great gift given unto those who are ‘heirs of salvation’. I am living proof that this damning doctrine ruins lives, it gives justification for sin, and destroys the hearts of women and children. To clarify, I never partook of the lusts of the flesh completely, but far enough to tear my beautiful family apart. Jacob in the Book of Mormon is a hero of mine, and deserves great credit for helping me distinguish my errors. Listen to this Servant of the Lord!!

“But behold, hearken ye unto me and know that by the help of the all-powerful Creator of Heaven and earth, I can tell you concerning your thoughts, how that ye are beginning to labor in sin, which sin appeareth very abominable unto me, yea, and abominable unto God. Yea, and it grieveth my soul, and causeth me to shrink with shame before the presence of my Maker, that I must testify unto you concerning the wickedness of your hearts. And also it grieveth me that I must use so much boldness of speech concerning you before your wives and your children, many of whose feelings are exceeding tender, and chaste, and delicate before God, which thing is pleasing unto God. And it supposeth me that they have come up hither to hear the pleasing word of God, yea, the word which healeth the wounded soul. Wherefore, it burdeneth my soul that I should be constrained, because of the strict commandment which I have received from God, to admonish you according to your crimes, to enlarge the wounds of those who are already wounded, instead of consoling and healing their wounds. And those who have not been wounded, instead of feasting upon the pleasing word of God, have daggers placed to pierce their souls and wound their delicate minds. But notwithstanding the greatness of the task, I must do according to the strict commands of God and tell you concerning your wickedness and abominations in the presence of the pure in heart, and the broken heart, and under the glance of the piercing eye of the Almighty God. Wherefore, I must tell you the truth according to the plainness of the word of God. For behold, as I inquired of the Lord, thus came the word unto me, saying, Jacob, get thou up into the temple on the morrow and declare the word which I shall give thee unto this people. And were it not that I must speak unto you concerning a grosser crime, my heart would rejoice exceedingly because of you. But the word of God burthens me because of your grosser crimes. For behold, thus saith the Lord: This people begins to wax in iniquity; they understand not the scriptures, for they seek to excuse themselves in committing whoredoms because of the things which are written concerning David, and Solomon his son. Behold, David and Solomon truly had many wives and concubines, which thing was abominable before me, saith the Lord. Wherefore, thus saith the Lord: I have led this people forth out of the land of Jerusalem by the power of mine arm, that I might raise up unto me a righteous branch from the fruit of the loins of Joseph. Wherefore, I, the Lord God, will not suffer that this people shall do like unto them of old. Wherefore, my brethren, hear me and hearken to the word of the Lord: For there shall not any man among you have save it be one wife, and concubines he shall have none; for I, the Lord God, delighteth in the chastity of women. And whoredoms are an abomination before me; thus saith the Lord of Hosts. Wherefore, this people shall keep my commandments, saith the Lord of Hosts, or cursed be the land for their sakes.” (Jacob 2:2, 3, 6,7)

“…They that are after the flesh cannot please God” Rom. 1:33. This scripture resonates deeply within me. In my constant seeking and desire to subdue the flesh, as the Apostle Paul did, I was referred to a talk given by Denver Snuffer called “Understanding Your Soul”. I admonish all men to listen to it. I feel like the contents were given directly to me. It has given me much strength, and the tools to curb the ferocity of the flesh.

These next two talks have solidified my understanding now that Plural Marriage is an abomination. Joseph Smith was doing something very different than marrying women and humping on them. Joseph Smith is as honorable and true as the sun comes up each day. He was virtuous and chaste, and gave Emma the respect of being his one and only queen.

This talk titled “Marriage and Family” saved my marriage 7 years ago. I was about the plurality business, and seeking it out when this talk was given. My wife and I were in attendance, and I felt as though I was back in Jeremiah’s day being blasted by a Servant of God. Believe it or not, it is refreshing to feel the words of God hit you like a sand blaster tearing off the old paint and incorrect beliefs and traditions of my fathers.

We must root this evil doctrine from our breasts, and be true and faithful to our beautiful brides. They deserve chaste and virtuous husbands. All men who believe in this doctrine are not chaste and virtuous in their hearts. The Lord praised the Lamanite’s for their deep devotion to their companions, yet cursed the Nephites for seeking out this damning doctrine.

“Behold, the Lamanites, your brethren whom ye hate because of their filthiness and the cursings which hath come upon their skins, are more righteous than you; for they have not forgotten the commandment of the Lord which was given unto our father, that they should have save it were one wife, and concubines they should have none, and there should not be whoredoms committed among them. And now this commandment they observe to keep. Wherefore, because of this observance in keeping this commandment, the Lord God will not destroy them, but will be merciful unto them, and one day they shall become a blessed people. Behold, their husbands love their wives, and their wives love their husbands, and their husbands and their wives love their children; and their unbelief and their hatred towards you is because of the iniquity of their fathers. Wherefore, how much better are you than they in the sight of your great Creator?” (Jacob 2:11)

The Lord desires to heal us from our blindness and our unbelief. He stated in 2017 when He offered us a new covenant

“I desire to heal you from an awful state of blindness so that you may see clearly my will, to do it. I promised to bring unto you much of my gospel through the Book of Mormon and to provide you with the means to obtain a fullness of my gospel, and I have done this; yet you refuse to receive the truth, even when it is given unto you in plainness. How can you who pursue the truth yet remain unable to behold your own weakness before me? Unto what can I liken it, that you may understand? For you are like a man who seeks for good fruit from a neglected vineyard — unwatered, undunged, unpruned, and unattended. How shall it produce good fruit if you fail to tend it? What reward does the unfaithful husbandman obtain from his neglected vineyard? How can saying you are a faithful husbandman ever produce good fruit in the vineyard without doing the work of the husbandman? For you seek my words to recover them even as you forsake to do them. You have heretofore produced wild fruit, bitter and ill-formed, because you neglect to do my words.” (T&C 157:16,17) This scripture has many applications, and it aptly fits in this narrative.

David’s Psalms have always given me strength. Here is a man who struggled greatly with the desires of the flesh. His repentance humbles me. I can feel the tearing of his heart as he yearns for comfort from the Lord.

“I sought the Lord, and he heard me and delivered me from all my fears. They looked unto him and were lightened, and their faces were not ashamed. This poor man cried, and the Lord heard him and saved him out of all his troubles. The angel of the Lord encamps round about them that fear him and delivers them. O taste and see that the Lord is good. Blessed is the man that trusts in him. O fear the Lord, you his saints, for there is no lack to them that fear him. The young lions do lack, and suffer hunger; but they that seek the Lord shall not lack any good thing.” (Ps. 34:2)

“O Lord, rebuke me not in your anger, neither chasten me in your hot displeasure. Have mercy upon me, O Lord, for I am weak. O Lord, heal me, for my bones are vexed. My soul is also seriously vexed, but you, O Lord — how long? Return, O Lord. Deliver my soul. Oh save me for your mercies’ sake. For in death there is no remembrance of you; in the grave, who shall give you thanks? I am weary with my groaning. All night I make my bed to swim. I water my couch with my tears. My eye is consumed because of grief. It waxes old because of all my enemies. Depart from me, all you workers of iniquity, for the Lord has heard the voice of my weeping. The Lord has heard my supplication. The Lord will receive my prayer. Let all my enemies be ashamed and severely vexed. Let them return and be ashamed suddenly.” (Ps. 6:1)

What a whammy for my first blog post. I realize there is a lot of sensitive material here, and I have stripped myself before you. I hope that my experience will help others to shed themselves of unbelief, foolish acts, and the damning traditions of their fathers.

Anthony Richmond

43 thoughts on “Brokenness of Man & Plural Marriage

  1. :-)Joseph’s repeated statements in 1843 & 1844, ( Journal History of the Church, and Times & Seasons from Nauvoo )
    which was also the “Statement on Marriage” ,
    in the D&C , old section CI ( 101 ), until 1876 edition of the D&C,
    “we are accused of polygamy,
    we do not practice it is, we do not preach it ,
    it is a crime,
    and it is adultery.”
    Even 4 weeks before his death
    “…What a thing it is for a man to be accused of committing adultery, and having seven wives, when I can only find one.
    I am the same man, and as innocent as I was fourteen years ago; and I can prove them all perjurers.” (History of the Church, vol 6, p. 411)
    The secret combination of demonic “occult” masonry
    was used to hide the forbidden polygamy
    from the high priesthood
    (which was over all the church [rule by “common consent” ]
    who appointed the first presidency, and all the quorums,
    had to accept or reject any purported revelation,
    and could excommucate, including 1,2, or all the first presidency )
    and from the members of the church in Nauvoo.
    Thanks Anthony, all important rebuttal to the adulterous apostasy,
    prophesied gentiles that would first reject the fullness of the Gospel

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  2. This is a subject that is very personal to me. My first marriage, of 30 years, ended because my husband joined a polygamous cult. His defense was that Joseph Smith did it. I asked him when he was going to build an ark. That being said, what can our perspective be on Abraham, Isaac and Jacob? Seriously. Is it possible that to live a “Law of God” outside of the appropriate time and place, that it will condemn us rather than empower us? This generation is faced with abominations on every side. Perhaps this is not the time and place, but I will not be bold enough to tell God what He can do. The devil is an accuser and he is a liar.

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    1. Hello Andra, I should allow my sweet bride to answer you as she is the one who understands this very well. But I will try and respond with what I believe.

      The fruits of Abraham are what I look at. He took Hagar unto himself after Sarah gave her to him. What happened next? Sarah kicked her out of the house. As a father, what an excruciating experience that would be.

      The future we look forward to is reuniting to Enoch and Melchizedek. Abraham did not obtain a community of Zion. He was a prototype of the saved man for sure, but we are looking forward to something quite different. The fruit of plural marriage does not bring oneness nor Zion. As Jacob put it, it brings condemnation and sadness. The fruits of relationship between husband and wife in Zion will be as Jacob tells us. A man and a woman who love one another, and the Lord will bless that union. They who are building upon the oneness they have achieved and bringing that into a Zion community.

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      1. Andra, the Old Testament stories used to be my excuse for believing this principle came from God. After all, the relationship of Hagar, Sarah and Abraham is the justification for plural marriage in Section 132. But I’ve come to ask what in these stories implies that God condoned polygamy?

        Hagar was Sarah’s handmaid. When Sarah believed she would never conceive she used her property, Hagar, as a surrogate. It was Sarah’s idea, not Abraham’s. Later, when Hagar was pregnant and Sarah became jealous, angry and regretted her choice to use Hagar, Hagar left. But God spoke to Hagar and sent her back to her mistress, not back to Abraham, but back to Sarah. Eventually, when Hagar’s son was old enough and with God’s help, they left this less than ideal situation for good.

        Hagar’s agency was limited because, after all, she was Sarah’s property. For this reason, she could be given as a surrogate, cast out, and abandoned by the father of her child. While Ishmael resulted in a great nation, God later referred to Isaac as Abraham’s only son so even Hagar’s son had no status in this family (Genesis 22:2). By joining Sarah and Abraham, Hagar creates the threesome that becomes our model for this family arrangement. In other words, the foundation for the mormon plural marriage principle is a second-class citizen who is used, abandoned, and left with a divided family. Not a very inspiring basis for and eternal marriage principle.

        There are no positive polygamy stories in the Old Testament, where family life is enviable, and the Hagar story is no exception. Could it be God wants us to learn through these stories? Are these negative Old Testament stories involving multiple wives God’s way of implying that He tolerated, but does not sanction this way of life?

        That’s how I’ve come to view this polygamy mess. And thank you, Anthony, for sharing more reasons that this teaching is harmful.

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    2. do note,
      Abraham’s Sarah was dead when he married Keturah.
      The few words of “concubines” comes down to Us, over 3,800 years, probably false.

      and the YeHoVaH Messiah did Not command Abraham to take Hagar, Sarah did.

      Isaac had only 1 wife,

      The Almighty did Not command Jacob to have 4 wives,
      and all the dysfunction resulting.

      The Old Testament instructs to Not multiply wives.
      So how can Nathan in the verses regarding the Uriah Bathseba purported incident,
      have Nathan supporting polygamy.

      Obviously he had to be a fallen prophet,
      or most probable, this was added and false,
      coming down 3,000 years to this day.

      D&C 132, the second polygamous half is clearly false and demonic doctrine.

      Joseph repeatedly his last 2 years said polygamy was adultery,
      right to his death,
      and it is .

      Jacob 2 said it is an abomination.

      And one can clearly see, that Jacob 2 does NOT say sometimes the Almighty commands it,
      just the opposite.
      “If I will raise up righteous seed, I will command My people ( to have 1 wife and no concubines ),
      otherwise they will hearken unto these things ( the abominations of Solomon and David ) ”

      :-)Joseph’s repeated statements in 1843 & 1844, ( Journal History of the Church, and Times & Seasons from Nauvoo )
      ( which was also the “Statement on Marriage” ,
      in the D&C , old section CI ( 101 ), until 1876 edition of the D&C )

      “we are accused of polygamy,
      we do not practice it is, we do not preach it ,
      it is a crime,
      and it is adultery.”

      Even 4 weeks before his death
      “…What a thing it is for a man to be accused of committing adultery, and having seven wives, when I can only find one.
      I am the same man, and as innocent as I was fourteen years ago; and I can prove them all perjurers.” (History of the Church, vol 6, p. 411)

      The secret combination of demonic “occult” masonry
      was used to hide the forbidden polygamy
      from the high priesthood

      (which was over all the church [rule by “common consent” ]
      who appointed the first presidency, and all the quorums,
      had to accept or reject any purported revelation,
      and could excommunicate, including 1,2, or all the first presidency )

      and from the members of the church in Nauvoo.

      Thanks Anthony, all important rebuttal to the adulterous apostasy,
      prophesied gentiles that would first reject the fullness of the Gospel

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    3. Andra,

      We should use the newer to interpret or clarify or better understand the older. The Answer to the prayer for covenant is clear that Abraham has a (singular) wife, or female counterpart. Her name is Sarah, and she sits on a throne with her husband and is equal with him. There is another female mentioned in relation to Abraham, but it is not in the capacity of a second wife, but rather a Mother companion. That Answer is well worth a deep study on this exact topic, and it didn’t come down to us from corrupt men who did not fear God from thousands of years ago.

      The most clear and illuminating passage (in my opinion) to study, ponder, and consider if anyone wants to better understand Heavenly Father Ahman on this exact topic are these words from “Our Divine Parents” talk relating to Mary, Christ’s Mother, on page 22:

      “ When Mary said the words, “he has regarded the low estate of his handmaiden” the “condescension of God” seems to apply particularly for Her. She laid aside glory to be here, and the Father still held “regard” for His “handmaiden” in this “low estate.” What a great work our Heavenly Parents have undertaken for their children!”

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    4. Of not, with regards to Abraham and Jacob, neither sought a wife other than their beloved. They did accept wives according to their wives, or father inlaws wishes. They did not seek for a whoredom which is what Jacob decries in the Book of Mormon.

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  3. Thank you, Anthony, for sharing this heartfelt post. And now especially since I have met you personally, I am grateful to say that I know you. One thing I do feel impressed to share regarding what has been said. Sometimes the Lord may test us to see if we will follow Him and HIS command. Perhaps being told by these “oracles” that you SHOULD participate in the practice was instead a test to see if you would follow Him, not them. Just a thought. It has been a challenge in my life to remember this at times, when I want an answer and hope someone may direct me in the path. As I said…I admire you, and am grateful to know you. You have overcome and are an example. Thank you!!

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    1. Well hello there! There is much more to the story, and it is not a happy one. The outcome has been knowledge and growth which I and my sweet Amanda are grateful for. But is effort to not bring the spirit of accusation and to be an accuser I left the rest of the story out. I love Doug and Kitten. I always have. And I seek not to destroy their names. I know Doug has done good, as has Kitten. But the things said and done were horrific to my family.

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  4. What a first post indeed! But it makes me want to follow this blog if there is this much “hard” truth in only the first post…that’s a blog worth following…

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    1. Howdy Jay. In a nutshell, I am an ass, and my wife is an ass kicker. Without her I would be dwelling in a pit asking God to hang a rope around my neck and throw me in the ocean. But… God is so mindful, and He amazes me while watching His hands move in my life.

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      1. Thanks Anthony for putting this out there for everyone to digest. Chablis and I have put our story out as well about Doug’s stuff that destroyed our family. Our family is barely starting to repair in certain aspects but I feel there are other aspects that will never be repaired. Thanks for sharing

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      2. Ok Anthony….so I’m bad with names and realized we actually met at the conference! I linked your post to my entire fellowship because I thought your post was so important, and Mandon Viking beard said he knew you! I put it together that you had the heavy metal rainbow shirt! You and I talked about metal for awhile! Have you listened to any Rebellion yet? What is your email I’m going to link you some tasty jams!

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  5. I believe you. We have experienced the effects of these teaching MPs when we countered them with scripture. Finally, your voice speaks deep truth and openness. Thank you for your pearls that cost so dearly. I am grateful that you spoke up about these false teachers. The teachings destroy families and are harmful and cruel.

    Thank you for laying the matter out
    We love you
    Please reach out to us any. We would love to pray with you and your wife and walk with you.

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  6. Thank you for your courage. Seeking signs (Spiritual witnesses outside the Holy Ghost) is par for adultery, which is not just about sexual sin, but being unfaithful to God (https://scriptures.info/scriptures/tc/glossary/adultery)
    I understand your challenges, and am grateful for the Lords and my wife’s intercession. It’s hard standing up before naked, but it does take away the accusers power. If interested, my wife Jennifer and I talked in Rockland (Moab, Utah) Regional Conference, April 9-10, 2016 about seemed these struggles.
    May the lord bless you on your ascent and return to him. Thanks again for your courage.
    Brian

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    1. Brian, I went to the scriptures glossary yesterday, I had not read that description of adultery there yet. Thank you for linking it. It caused me so much contemplation. I am so grateful that we now have a set of scriptures which are the purest we have ever been given in the restoration. The light and truth contained therein causes my mind to ascend. Thanks brother

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  7. as replied to Andra above.

    do note,
    Abraham’s Sarah was dead when he married Keturah.
    The few words of “concubines” comes down to Us, over 3,800 years, probably false.

    and the YeHoVaH Messiah did Not command Abraham to take Hagar, Sarah did.

    Isaac had only 1 wife,

    The Almighty did Not command Jacob to have 4 wives,
    and all the dysfunction resulting.

    The Old Testament instructs to Not multiply wives.
    So how can Nathan in the verses regarding the Uriah Bathseba purported incident,
    have Nathan supporting polygamy.

    Obviously he had to be a fallen prophet,
    or most probable, this was added and false,
    coming down 3,000 years to this day.

    D&C 132, the second polygamous half is clearly false and demonic doctrine.

    Joseph repeatedly his last 2 years said polygamy was adultery,
    right to his death,
    and it is .

    Jacob 2 said it is an abomination.

    And one can clearly see, that Jacob 2 does NOT say sometimes the Almighty commands it,
    just the opposite.
    “If I will raise up righteous seed, I will command My people ( to have 1 wife and no concubines ),
    otherwise they will hearken unto these things ( the abominations of Solomon and David ) ”

    :-)Joseph’s repeated statements in 1843 & 1844, ( Journal History of the Church, and Times & Seasons from Nauvoo )
    ( which was also the “Statement on Marriage” ,
    in the D&C , old section CI ( 101 ), until 1876 edition of the D&C )

    “we are accused of polygamy,
    we do not practice it is, we do not preach it ,
    it is a crime,
    and it is adultery.”

    Even 4 weeks before his death
    “…What a thing it is for a man to be accused of committing adultery, and having seven wives, when I can only find one.
    I am the same man, and as innocent as I was fourteen years ago; and I can prove them all perjurers.” (History of the Church, vol 6, p. 411)

    The secret combination of demonic “occult” masonry
    was used to hide the forbidden polygamy
    from the high priesthood

    (which was over all the church [rule by “common consent” ]
    who appointed the first presidency, and all the quorums,
    had to accept or reject any purported revelation,
    and could excommunicate, including 1,2, or all the first presidency )

    and from the members of the church in Nauvoo.

    Thanks Anthony, all important rebuttal to the adulterous apostasy,
    prophesied gentiles that would first reject the fullness of the Gospel

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  8. Anthony, you are not an ass as you claimed in one of the comments above. But you have misunderstood the doctrine of polygamy. All the righteous should prepare now for the day it will be required again. More about this can be found in the continuation of the D&C, known as the Second Book of Commandments. See 2BC.info for more details.

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    1. So you are asserting that second book of commandments overwrites the Book of Mormon, the Answer to the prayer for covenant, and the very image of God? I’m extremely unpersuaded…I think I have an idea of your definition of “righteous”

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  9. For me, plural marriage comes down to this: Does the BoM teach against it? Unequivocally yes. Could there possibly be some higher form of this practice? Sure. But if God wants me to go against the plain doctrine of the BoM then he needs to tell me himself. I have no reason to believe any mortal, fallible creature that teaches against plain doctrine.

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    1. :-)Scriptures prove there is No higher form.
      Polygamy is adultery,
      Joseph repeatedly said so to his death,
      the book of Mormon clearly states so,

      the facts now are pure & clear, before Our eyes.

      It was forbidden by the High Priesthood in Nauvoo ( over all the quorums & church ) ,
      and hidden from them and members,
      by adopting the secret combination of demonic “occult” masonry.

      The prophesied gentiles that would first reject the fullness of the Gospel,
      that today in 60 seconds alone,
      can be proven is Monogamy,

      and the law of consecration
      ( D&C 105: 5 Zion can Only be built up by the law of consecration,
      D&C 119 is the law of Zion forever,
      irrefutably Not any “lower” law.
      They were to continue being equal,
      then in equality to pay 1/10 )

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    2. Considering the very image of God runs contrary to this idea 1000%, if a being (your comment implied a singular male being) shows up purporting to be “God” advocating the practice, you can be sure it’s the devil.

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  10. I don’t believe Anthony’s story. This is why.
    I met Doug Mendenhall (through Denver Snuffer, it so happens) in 2012. Over the years my family and Doug became good friends and had frequent interaction and discussions with him. (We have also known the woman Anthony refers to as ‘Kitten,’ nearly as long, and have the same close friendship with her. Out of respect for her privacy, I will not name her.)
    For those who are unaware, Doug passed away in December 2020. Denver Snuffer and his wife traveled to Mt Pleasant where Denver spoke at Doug’s funeral. The recording is available on the internet if you would like to listen to what Denver said. You may also have noticed Denver made a short post on his blog, remembering his friend Doug Mendenhall.
    Now to the important part.
    Through countless hours of attending “jedi” workshops that Doug hosted, and many more hours in private conversation with Doug, I have NEVER heard him advocate the practice of plural marriage, or anything like unto it. In my experience—over the course of 8 years of close association—Doug’s private conversation has always been completely consistent with his public teaching. In other words, what is publicly available in the contents of the 6 books Doug published, as well as Doug’s voluminous blog “Conquering Spiritual Evil,” is what he speaks in private conversation. As a person I know Doug to be compassionate, trustworthy, careful and exact, honest, honorable, friendly, kind, and extremely generous to those in need. Above all else, Doug loves his Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ. Doug spoke truth even when he knew some would choose to take offense, because the Savior is Doug’s master. He chose not to enslave himself to polishing his own image or worrying about what others might think when Christ asked him to do, or say, anything. Choosing to follow Christ only, and not men’s opinions, will bring on persecution, and Doug was well acquainted with that. I can think of a couple other examples whose names are had for both good and evil in this world.
    I, and my family, have found that Doug’s teachings are consistent with scripture and all that has been revealed through the Lord’s servant Denver Snuffer. Over these eight years, by giving heed to the Lord’s word through these two men, each of us have become better people. More loving and forgiving. Less judgmental and accusatory. More willing to sacrifice for Our Lord Jesus Christ. Better able to identify our own shortcomings and sins. Quicker to repent. More diligent and faithful. Ever more aware of how far we still have to go in this process.
    We’re not done yet by a long shot. But this is the fruit that I have experienced by giving heed to the Savior’s words coming through Denver Snuffer and Doug Mendenhall.
    I personally know dozens of people who would write what I have written regarding their own long-term friendships with Doug and Kitten. I am aware that there are plenty of others whom I do not know personally, who would say the same thing about their own experiences with Doug.
    Insinuating that someone has been teaching, encouraging others to practice—and possibly practicing themselves—some form of polygamy/adultery is a very serious charge. If you are wrong about that, or lying, the consequences to you could be serious. Be careful.
    This is my witness.
    Now you get to choose.
    [FYI I posted my comments above also on Adrian’s blog post with the link to Anthony’s post, as he has furnished a platform for Anthony to spread his story broadly.]

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    1. Hello Rebecca. I actually agree with most of what you said about Doug. The subject is not about Doug though. It is about the hurt and pain that the subject of plural marriage can cause to people. I am not offended that you do not believe what I said. I can in honesty hold my hand on the Book of Mormon with my right arm to the square and testify that what I have written happened from my vantage point.

      I went back to my Jedi notes after reading your post here to make sure I am not speaking untruths. In my notes I read “Christ has 7 wives – it shows on our hands which one we come from”. “To be called Rabbi – minimum of 3 wives”.

      The doctrine was taught openly. I never said he encouraged others to practice it. That is your assumption. Nor did I insinuate that he possibly practiced it. That is also your assumption. Remember one of his favorite catch phrases he used in Jedi’s “don’t assume, it makes an ass out of you and me.” I always got a kick out of that one.

      As my wife and I talked about this tonight, she reminded me when his daughter told my wife and I in a home in SLC that we would be asked to practice the law. It was not probed or asked for. But it was spoken very matter of fact.

      To clarify, Doug did not teach that I was called to practice plurality. His daughter did more than twice to me personally and then to both my wife and I. Kitten did also to me personally. These experiences were paramount in my downward spiral seeking understanding on this topic. This is soothsaying. The main point is to do exactly the opposite of what I did, and not hearken to soothsayers. I take full responsibility for listening to man and placing idols between myself and the Lord.

      With all of this said, I hold no malice. I hold no accusation toward them. I actually love them. Doug Is a good man and I love him. Kitten is a good woman. We are all here doing the best we can. And I am so glad that your experience with Doug has been so positive.

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  11. Rebecca you can’t witness to something about which you have no first hand knowledge. Your personal experiences do not mean Anthony is not telling the truth. You are accusing Anthony and Amanda of lying about their own firsthand experiences that took place when you were not present. You assert Doug’s teachings made you less accusatory you say?! Hrmmmm I guess not. I can say I’m a purple unicorn, but saying that doesn’t make it so.
    Anthony’s original post, nor a single one of his responses possess an accusatory spirit. Not in the slightest. He simply told the truth and warned others of the exact thing that caused the saints to fail in Joseph’s day. It is extremely serious. It is an abomination. Anthony said he loved Doug. Those words align with his heart. He did not speak evil of Doug. That doesn’t mean he can’t and shouldn’t warn others of an abhorrent teaching that apparently caused serious harm to his family. Anthony is not the only person with direct first hand knowledge that has made me aware of a teaching regarding Christ Himself having multiple wives from those classes. That teaching is a lie and very offensive to God. That is all Anthony was trying to convey and it is the Truth. His warning was appropriate because there are many in this “movement” or whatever it is that hold that belief still in their hearts. Though I don’t personally understand how when Denver has been beyond unequivocal that it is an evil practice. It is a poison and will absolutely prevent Zion.

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  12. Too Rebecca and others who may think this to not be truth. I will stand here as a witness to speak that what my husband Anthony has said is true. I was there and present for most of it. Because of these teachings my life has been a living Hell on more them one occasion, including right now. I was present when my husband came home from these Jedi classes and shared what he was learning. I tried to convince him that it was not a true doctrine. I watched as it ripped my marriage apart because of what Doug taught about Bonded mates and God having more then one wife. No one can understand the pain and anguish this doctrine expels until it hits you personally. I can attest that Denise Mendenhall told me and my husband that we would be asked to live the law of polygamy. Again, I tried to convince my husband it was wrong. God was merciful to me and granted me many moments of comfort and miracles. I can give testimony that this doctrine is a damning doctrine. God himself gave me a witness that I could never deny. Men who believe otherwise are commiting adultery as their belief in such doctrine in their hearts makes them guilty of that crime. Doug has caused much harm to many families for the doctrine he has taught. If anyone should hold malice or wanting to accuse it should be me. The hurt and pain my children and I have had to endure because of such filth is not something I would wish on anyone. I pray people open their eyes to the truthfulness I speak and attest to. As God is my witness I swear that the above story of myself and Anthony are true. I hope that maybe by sharing such a story and exposing my families heart ache that maybe someone will be spared the same fate I have had to endure. This doctrine is a false teaching and will only damn people if they continue in it. I have much more I could share but feel this is enough.

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  13. “Let us remember and be sure our hearts and hands are clean and pure”.

    I am reminded of the covenant we were given of the Lord, in part:

    Be of one heart and regard one another with charity. Measure your words before giving voice to them, and consider the hearts of others. Although a man may err in understanding concerning many things, yet he can view his brother with charity and come unto me, and through me he can with patience overcome the world. I can bring him to understanding and knowledge. Therefore, if you regard one another with charity, then your brother’s error in understanding will not divide you…

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    1. Jjkrambule I’m not exactly sure your intent when sharing those words in this context after Amanda’s post, but there are some things not to be tolerated and a few things about which Gods patience grows thin. Harming women and children is one of those things. You can see a small portion of this come through in Mormon’s extremely bold and harsh words regarding baptism of little children in the Book of Mormon. That is only a small taste. “Our Divine Parents” mentions offending Our Heavenly Mother specifically in the context of acting cruelly or mistreating “Her daughters”. It then mentions that when we offend Her, we offend Her Husband. Offending Her Husband is something I promise you no one knowingly wants to do. Adulterers are one specific thing mentioned as being predators that we have a duty to cast out among us. Polygamy is adultery by definition. If we do not detest and spurn the practice and teaching of that doctrine, we are not of God. If we care about Zion at all, we have a duty to condemn that teaching and practice in the strongest possible terms. It cannot creep in among us. I don’t care if an otherwise amazing person we adore teaches it. It cannot be tolerated. To tolerate it is uncharitable to all the women, like Amanda, who have been so deeply wounded by it.

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  14. 🙂 Amanda, I appreciate Your words.
    Polygamy is adultery, sin next to murder.

    Note Joseph’s words.

    🙂 Joseph’s repeated statements in 1843 & 1844, ( Journal History of the Church, and Times & Seasons from Nauvoo )

    which was also the “Statement on Marriage” ,
    in the D&C , old section CI ( 101 ), until 1876 edition of the D&C,

    “we are accused of polygamy,
    we do not practice it is, we do not preach it ,
    it is a crime,
    and it is adultery.”

    Even 4 weeks before his death
    “…What a thing it is for a man to be accused of committing adultery, and having seven wives, when I can only find one.
    I am the same man, and as innocent as I was fourteen years ago; and I can prove them all perjurers.” (History of the Church, vol 6, p. 411)

    The secret combination of demonic, “occult” masonry ( very popular back then ),
    was substituted for the Gospel,
    to hide forbidden polygamy from the high priesthood, and members of the church in the 1840’s.

    This is not “sacred”, but demonic, satanic, luciferian, and purely “occult” .

    Crushing the living, for 100 % proven satanic false doctrine,

    To give a few mega apostates, money, power, praise, and for 50 years, harems, some women not even single,
    Like Brigham’s 55 wives, ⅓ in their 20’s & teens.

    Supported by their slaves, all their money & time,
    not eliminating poverty , but creating more of it.
    100 % transfiguration of the Gospel, to their damnation ( Mormon 8: 33 )

    Now comes the prophesied restoration back to the House of Israel D&C 77: 11
    after the prophesied first rejection of the fullness, that is now 100% proven.

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  15. I attended several of the Jedi conferences as well as other seminars organized by Doug during the same timeframe referenced by Anthony in his post. From my own firsthand experience, I know Anthony is truthful about what was taught in these gatherings. If anything, Anthony has been very restrained in his comments.
    I believe Doug was a good-hearted and kind man. It doesn’t change the fact that he taught some destructive and even damning teachings which were not of God, but which originated with his daughter and the woman referred to as Kitten.

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  16. Anthony my dear sweet amazing viking brother! Thank you so very much for this. I love you and your family so very much and I’m so glad to know you.

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